You are often described as the best known Slovenian
contemporary writer. How do you relate to this description?
When one is at the beginning of his career, this sort of
statements are definitely much enjoyable and there is a true desire to be
considered an important writer. But once you become an appreciated writer,
this status feels a bit heavy on your shoulders. Once you are famous, everyone
asks all sorts of questions and expects you to provide only wise answers,
problem solving answers.
Not to mention the fact that everyone expects that your next
book is even better than your previous one, something that is not always
possible. In fact, every time you start writing, you are at the point you were
at the start. A good thing about this is that they start translating your work
into several languages and you become known in other parts of the world.
Many writers desire to become famous, but few actually
do. What does success mean for an author?
If you start by thinking what do to in order to become a
known writer, it is a sure thing you shall not become successful. This is not
something you should care about, but you should dedicate yourself to writing
heart and soul, you should be passionate and captivated by the things you write
about. Otherwise, success shall not come to you; yet, being dedicated to
writing does not guarantee success either. There are two types of literary
success. One represents a quality literature that can be defined as a work of
art – deep, complex and targeting a more informed public. But there is always
commercial literature success, written by those who accommodate a public who
doesn`t want to handle complex matters. And within this category, the
competition is fierce among writers.
Fortunately, we have also the blessed situation when a
quality writer enjoys a large public, for example Gabriel García Márquez, Jorge
Luis Borges, Umberto Eco. From what I have heard, Mircea Cărtărescu is a
writer that the Romanian public loves a lot. Regarding me, when I published the
novel “I saw her that night” in France, it received the Award for the best
foreign book in 2004, and up to now, it sold 15.000 copies.
Back in the days, there wasn’t any social movement
without a writer being in the first line. Do you believe that social
involvement is a writer`s duty?
It is clear that the role of the involved writers during the
last years of the 20th century is no longer the same as today, in our free
society. But, if we speak of the involvement of the writer in the life of the
city, this is not something that received attention only during the last years
of communism, but has its origins in the French Enlightenment.
The writer, the one who approaches ethical matters in his
works, becomes involved in the life of the society. I cannot deny that my
social commitment was very strong and resulted in a large series of articles
and essays. Now, looking back, it seems that I have invested too much time and
energy in this activity. Maybe it would have been wiser to invest more into
literature.
Communism used to promise a perfect society. Doesn’t the
European Union do the same with their promise of prosperity? Especially here,
in Eastern Europe, we are so far away from what we are promised.
That is a very interesting question, because we must
remember that we, the people of Eastern Europe, during the socialist times,
believed that, when socialism would evolve into communism, there will be an
abundance of milk and honey. Afterwards, when communism crashed and we faced
many problems, the song changed just a very tiny bit. Now we are promised that
capitalist society is the ideal one, the one that shall rid us of all our
problems and shall provide a miraculous existence. It turned out that things
are not really like that. In this new society, the most obvious and surprising
fact for some people is that each person must take care of himself. Some
people have taken care of their own lives more than they thought of the public
good.
My generation had always dreamt of democracy, but we woke up
in capitalism. While we were dreaming about democracy, we would have never
imagined that it comes together with greed and with a fierce struggle to make
money and positions in order to ensure exclusive individual prosperity to the
wealthy and powerful people. We were talking about a democratic society and we
had the illusion that this means foremost the freedom of expression and several
political parties. It turned out that living in a democratic society does not
mean just the things we were dreaming about, but flagrant inequities and heavy
social problems – linked to the unemployment and health system. And, in this
society the state must take responsibility.
We often hear things like “it used to be better during
Ceaușescu”, or “it used to be better during Tito”, in the case of the former
Yugoslavian states. What would you say to these people?
I think these statements are absolutely ridiculous. First of
all, it is not at all true that back then people were living better or there
weren`t any social inequities. Back then, only those who belonged to the unique
party were doing better. On the other hand, saying that the regime was
providing equity to all citizens is a statement that lacks reasoning. If we are
to think of the fact that there was no freedom to travel, that you were not
allowed to have a passport at home, that the borders had mines ready to explode
anytime and barb wire fences, and so on...
I think that nowadays, many young people who knock at closed doors tend to become nostalgic of the old days when social protection seemed to have been better than today. The transition from socialism to capitalism brought along several problems. But, a society that truly cares for the public good and the welfare of the citizens cannot be discovered by looking back, because if we look there we find dictatorship, crimes, and all sorts of constraints that often turned into savage acts.

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Can there be a better society?
Our mentality must go forward, towards finding a new social
contract that ensures the emergence of a society where social justice,
prosperity and the welfare of each person become real concerns.
If, during this search, people shall look to the communist
ideals and shall try to transpose some of them into reality, this might be a
good thing. If we observe the last years of the communist times, there are no
sustainable solutions there. At European level, it is possible to find a
new social structure that is beneficial for all citizens, a new type of social
state that shall not suffocate freedom of expression and individual initiative.
You are rather an optimist. Europe has left behind two
world wars and the former Yugoslavian wars. Do you believe we live in a safer
world, are there any guarantees that these absurd times shall not come back
anymore?
I belong to a generation that was absolutely sure that there
will be no war ever again. Although I was born four years after the Second
World War, we had the impression that it took place a few centuries ago.
Nevertheless, we were to face later some bloody conflicts in Croatia, Bosnia
and Kosovo; not so much in Slovenia, where the war lasted only for ten days.
Last year, I was discussing with a local journalist at an
international conference in Ukraine. I told him I have a hunch that the things
we had lived at the beginning of the `90s might repeat themselves in Ukraine.
He told me “Not to worry, the situations shall be resolved once we recover
economically. There is no risk now that things develop the way they did in the
former Yugoslavia”. What do we see one year after this discussion? 6.000
people died in Ukraine, and several cities and villages destroyed. Many times I
believe that we do not learn anything from history or that, rather than learning
how to live, we learn how to die.
I remain an optimist, because this is the only thing that we
have in the end. After each European fall, we stand back on our feet again and
we start building whatever was destroyed.
Is there an essential quality that the Slovenians have,
one that is worth of being known by the entire world?
I shall make reference to these two legends. One says that,
when God made the world, he had divided all the beauties of the world up to the
point that there were only a few left and He gave them all to Slovenia:
mountains, rivers, seaside… That is why, the Slovenians are considered hard
working people, often displaying solidarity and ready at all times to do
something with their own capabilities. There are proud to belong to Europe, but
they are also proud of their traditions.
There is another legend. A man sits on the wayside on a rock
and he cries. God passes by and asks him: “Why are you crying?” And the
man bursts into tears even stronger. “I am Slovenian! That is my problem”. Hearing
this, God starts to cry too and tells him: “Oh, in this case, not even I can
help you…” and continues with His way.
The Slovenian soul has two sides. The second shows less
solidarity, less pride. It has to do with the mentality of the man who thinks
that being Slovenian means always being jealous on those who live better. I
believe that the truth about Slovenian is somewhere in the middle of the two
legends…