by Bogdan Munteanu
How would
you describe the 75 years of British Council activity in Romania, celebrated in
2013?
This is one
of the first offices to be opened (1938), so I think it’s wonderful to see what
has been achieved, because it was set up initially as the British Institute and
it was very much about literature. Over the years, it has developed its work,
working with very prestigious institutions in Romania. I’m very struck about
how many wonderful cultural institutions you do have here. I visited your
National Museum of Art yesterday, not only to see the ‘Out of Britain’
exhibition that we brought, but I also really enjoyed seeing the Romanian
contemporary art. I think through cultural relations we understand each other,
but I think much more important is the work that the British Council has done
with the Romanian Ministry of Education in terms of teaching, curriculum
development, teacher training and so on.
From the
start of your life, you have been a very ‘international’ person. What would be
the key to your successful career?
The word
success is not how I would describe it. I think what I would describe it as a
development of my interests and creating an opportunity to contribute in
various ways I wanted to. I am of Indian origin, born in Kenya, having lived
in the UK for 50 years, and that makes you a very global, international person,
which means you can be both part of a society and step back and look at it from
the outside. I am generally very interested in global issues, because my
starting point is one world, one humanity and respecting different cultures.
You only respect if you understand. I think it’s my passion for an interest of
making a difference that led me from one thing to the next. Whatever I did
wasn’t in terms of personal success, it was in terms of making a difference.
When I came to the UK, I got involved working in equality, because I really
wanted to see that there is equality, respect for women, minorities. Then I
wanted to get involved into policy in that direction. I was always interested
in the less fortunate or the disadvantaged and this is what has motivated me.
Does this
mean that volunteering is part of your personality?
I suppose it
is. Not all work is voluntary, but I think giving back to community,
volunteering, voluntary work is very much part of my interests. I’ve made a
nice combination of working in paid jobs where I could make a difference and
also in voluntary work. Being the deputy director of the British Council is a
voluntary job for me.
When we
look at somebody’s remarkable CV, we may imagine that everything went smoothly
in their lives. But what were the toughest moments you faced and the lessons
learned that are worth sharing?
Looking back,
I think that making a transition at a very young age from one society into the
next was quite tough. But if you approach it with a positive attitude, since
it’s part of learning, and you develop curiosity about learning, that
transition is not difficult, but challenging. Once you make that transition,
trying to navigate your way through different cultures, you can either take it
as a problem or as excitement. You become as much curious about your own
culture, in a deeper sense, when you became curious about a different culture.
I would like people to approach diversity and multiculturalism in a very
creative way, because that brings you richness which is so needed in this
world. What I would urge for the younger generation is not to have a
superficial understanding of culture through social media quick knowledge.
Speaking
of choices and equality reminds us that there are still nobiliary titles in
the UK. How do you see the relevance of the House of Lords today?
I think there
has been a debate about the reform of House of Lords for decades. One argument
is that it has no legitimacy because it is not elected. The other is, and
that’s my view, that its legitimacy comes from the experience of the people who
are in it. They have vast experience from their professions. The House of Lords
works like a revising chamber. The legislation has to be passed by the elected
House of Commons, then it comes to us, we revise it and send it back. It is
very rare that legislation is actually blocked. I’m of the view that the House
of Lords performs a very positive action, as a revising chamber, but the
question I would like to see reformed is this: I think they should disentangle
the honours in the House of Lords and what they should do is appoint people
based on the expertise they think they need.
You have
been part of the boards of two British televisions, ITV and Channel 4. How do
you see television’s role in education today?
I think the
media is very good, the question is how people use it, how the media are used
for giving young people the ability to develop their mind, criticize and asses
what’s good and what’s bad. Television can be a very good thing in terms of
education, of awareness. Some programmes, like ‘Coronation Street’ for
example, have used themes like volunteering as an integral part of the story.
Similarly, programmes which are very popular can be used to promote reading. I
think it can be a positive force. The way in which you use the media is a
question of imagination - of being able to engage, to inculcate the values you
wish. However, there is a danger that if the glamour and the celebrity culture
are what youngsters see, they will get a very superficial view of life. It is
imperative that we have education systems which develop the critical faculties
and instill values, so that they are not completely imbibing what’s coming
through the media unquestioningly.
As long as
the media incite people to have fun and schools teach people to be competent,
competitive and efficient, who teaches our youngsters to be happy, to have a
meaningful life?
In my view,
it basically has to do with your family life, to the kind of upbringing you
have. If I have one concern is that, in the modern world, there’s too much
emphasis on materialism and consumption. If go down that road, you will never
be satisfied, you will never be happy. If you become very materialistic, that’s
insatiable. There is more to life than just materialism. Because I’ve been so
involved myself in volunteering, one of my favourite sayings is that you work
to make a living, but you give to make a life. In my experience, people who
actually get engaged for the improvement of society are happier people.
What would
be the recipe for a balanced life?
Individuals
have their own specific personalities. To me, a balanced life has to do with
the ability of making choices. But before people can make choices, they’ve got
to be given a set of values. It is important that people are given the
opportunity to have a choice, so that’s why I believe in equality of
opportunity. We should make sure that everybody has the opportunity to make
their choices and is able to do what is within their capability.
There’s
the view that art is reserved to elites, do you agree with this?
Access to art is very important and every effort should be made that everybody is exposed to art. We tend to have a very elitist view of it, but you can see a child in a village engaged in art. You could do lots of outreach projects, like taking children to museums galleries, and when they go back they could discuss and write about what they saw. We shouldn’t focus only on excellence in art, but also on accessibility.

“We tend to
have a very elitist view of it, but you can see a child in a village engaged in
art.”